------------------------------------------------------------------------ Entropy8 Entropy8 was a site Auriea started in 1995 or was it 1996, she can never remember. She can only admit that she was into Illusion. All she wanted was to push her hand inside the screen. She was on a mission to fool whoever came around. Poke, provoke, paint. Someone from Sera Leone once wrote to say once that she could feel Auriea's images in her liver... even though it took Auriea awhile to really understand but was meant by that but yeah... that's exactly what she was going for. There is a fascination for quotations which she still hasn't quite lost. There was her own personal virus documented in The Disease Manifesto. Hallucinations was more of a gallery where she wanted to show off all her analog stuff. She did alot of photography and then there were all of those curious things she felt the need to collect. Part of what made her love the web from the first was that she could at last collect things that didn't take up space. Digital collections, Collections digitized. Other motifs seen with the early versions of the site were digital decay, bit-rot, illusory mechanics and diaristic fictions. She didn't make projects or pieces it was all a seamless whole a space for her public/personal evolutions. It didn't alter much in basic form from the time of its creation to the end in 1999 when she went and started entropy8zuper.org with Michaël Samyn. Emotional reactions she was seeking in others and suddenly through the web she found herself having a few. She started using a webcamera. You could come to the site and then there she sat... a fullscreen window into her room. Auriea was running a webserver on her Powerbook called IO. She could see people come and go watch their i.p addresses and their circulation to and from the pages served. Sometimes someone would email to ask if thats her sitting there watching them watching her. She would amuse herself by trying to put a name with a number. All this communicating in a new way, people becoming symbols and then people again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Zuper! Zuper! was the name Michaël used for his professional design work. The name was derived of "Zupergraphyx!" which was his pseudonym as a graphic designer. His motto at the time was "If it's not Zuper!, it's not Graphyx." The name was chosen to sound corny on purpose, making fun of the Belgian tradition of really silly company names like Novatex and Supertran, etc. When the time was ripe to get his own internet domain, he realized that he was no longer a graphic designer. So he shortened the name to Zuper!, under the motto "If it's just Graphyx, it's not Zuper!" Michaël's special relationship with the letter Z started when he must have been about 16 and his brother asked him to sponsor a class charity activity. The sponsoring required a name and since the school the brother was going to, had expelled Michaël earlier, he decided to use a pseudonym: Miga-El Zamien. This name reappeared later in art school in different variations, according to the spelling rules Michaël tended to re-invent regularly: Myga-El Zamien, Myga El Z! or El Z! Soon he started signing his school work with just "Z!" The largest part of the zuper.com web site has always the Zuper! design portfolio. For this portfolio, Michaël tended to design a completely new interface every time a new technology was released, often a new version of the Netscape browser. This way, the zuper.com interface became a place for experimentation. There were eight different interfaces before the completion of the merger with Entropy8. The first two were not much more than single web pages exploiting the bug/features of Netscape 1.1 (1995). The third was made when Netscape 2 came out (1996) and was a first experiment with frames. The fourth was made for Netscape 3 (1996) and made use of the novel feature of being able to change the source of an image after the document was loaded. This site came with 13 other versions for browsers that didn't have this feature, some of which used the Shockwave for Director plug-in. The theme of this site was fascism, which was what somebody who used new technology at the time -and to this very day- was accused of by the Information-Wants-To-Be-Free elite. Number five (1997) started with the famous Windows 95 shutdown screen "It is now safe to turn off your computer." and used Flash 2 (Futuresplash + sound!) technology. It marks the start of the zuper.com domain. Sites before this one were hosted on the server of local ISP ping.be and later in the riv.be domain when Michaël was Riverland's art director. This version also featured a first experiment with Dynamic HTML for Netscape 4 (Microsoft had not released a DHTML capable browser at that time). The sixth interface was a parody on/tribute to the low tech net.art style that was quickly becoming a genre in 1997. It combined this low tech look with state-of-the-art Dynamic HTML. This version of the interface also marks a major conceptual advancement in Zuper! design: "Information does not equal content", illustrated by the ingenious two-button interface: "Information" and "Portfolio". Sounds simple and obvious but remains one of the most important pillars in Michaël's design philosophy. In 1998 the Zuper! portfolio was put in a Javascript database. The interface to access this database was a fairy-tale like environment with animals on a hills that functioned as sliders. All done in Netscape-style Dynamic HTML. Internet Explorer lacked seriously in performance for complicated DHTML environments like this one. The graphics for the site were the result of one full year of 3D modeling with Hash Animation Master (preperations for a project that never came into being), with Johny and Mathilda as crowning achievements. This was supposed to be the last Zuper! interface (and was hence called "Interface"). It was to become an ever growing narrative that would probably have abandonned the idea of an interface to a portfolio at some time all together . There were supposed to be four main characters, The Four Neo-Porn Evangelists (Johny, Mathilda, Lucy and Marc), who had all sorts of sexy adventures in some magical forest. Sadly there was only one follow-up chapter, The Hills, after which the project died a silent death because it required too much work for each installment and most of all because Michaël had met Auriea and they were going to focus on working together. After the merger with Auriea, the Zuper! and the Entropy8 site were still being developed. And before dropping them in favor of doing only Entropy8Zuper! Michaël made a last interface, number eight (1999), a Flash movie with a living/dying plant-like structure in a Flash movie. All the sounds in this one are made by Michaël's voice. The site contains hardly any written text in favor an informal spoken words. Larger branches of the tree contain works preferred by Michaël, smaller ones works that one shouldn't really see, but the whole tree gives access to all Zuper! works made until that day. The size of the zuper.com site is 85 MB. May it rest in peace. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Woman On Fire http://www.womanonfire.com/proof.of.my.existence/documents/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Group Z, Belgium Group Z, Belgium is Michaël's pseudonym as an artist. After his studies in graphic design, Michaël seemlessly evolved through furniture design to fine art. Yet he refused to adopt any single style or discipline for his art works, following the graphic design concept he learned at school that style is a bad thing because it limits your expressive potential. So he made neo-constructivist paintings and pornography-inspired sculpures of ready-made objects simultaneously. In response to the lack of comprehension of such diversity, Michaël started Group Z, Belgium, a group of eleven artists who each had his or her own speciality. And then he set up group shows in his studio, which each had a theme: Circles, Pornography, Ergonomics, House. When Michaël discovered the internet in 1995 and dropped everything else, some of the first things he did were Group Z, Belgium pieces: "Home" and "Virgin/Sucker", both series made up from bits and pieces from Michaël's extensive archive of media clippings. He found Adaweb willing to host them and developed two more works on their server. The interfaces of "LOVE" and "I confess" were both inspired by games. "LOVE" was about many aspects of love. "I confess" was a critical evaluation of where Michaël thought he was as an artist at the time. As a result of the confession, Michaël stopped being an artist, calling himself "ex-artist", next to "bad designer". ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Entropy8Zuper! "Entropy8Zuper!" is the name of the merger between "Entropy8" and "Zuper!". The URL of the home site of Entropy8Zuper! is "http://entropy8zuper.org". We used to spell "Entropy8Zuper!" in all lowercase ("entropy8zuper!") but we have changed that to "Entropy8Zuper!". "Entropy8Zuper!" can be abbreviated to "E8Z!" or "e8z!". There is an abbreviated URL as well: "http://e8z.org". Never forget the exclamation mark in our name. It is part of the name because the name "Entropy8Zuper!" is made from "Entropy8" and "Zuper!", each part has it's own non-letter character: an "8" and an "!". On the Belgian "AZERTY" keyboard, those two characters appear on the same key. On that same keyboard, the letter keys "A" and "Z" are located next to each other. "A" and "Z" are the initials Auriea and Michael use. Obviously, using this means referring to Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, containing everything in between. We are not minimalists, we are maximalists. The only reason why the URL does not have an exclamation mark is that it is not allowed by the current Internet standards. how Entropy8Zuper! was conceived: y must get tripod... just a sec [fakeshop]: telephone books work also life: Z's in snarg ! lia: mini, everythings mini in here... life: yea, here 2 life: what's that pic ? a map ? Au-: you can change the window sizes lia: mindmaps ;) Au-: oh my Au-: snarg is naked lia: how how how life: pale snarg Au-: in the settings/preferences signmonger: you have touched the perfect body of fun! lia: just see the right eye :) Au-: take of the check in windows as stamps lia: not even the right one :( Au-: then close all the windows Au-: and re open them signmonger: krashed lost life and fake [fakeshop]: the bride of frankenstein is approaching? life: nope..still stamps... life: hold on... brb... signmonger: frank never married....'coz zey didne giv 'im ze job signmonger: where is gate? lia: leave, `ll be back -> more k to ivisit.... life: yup, rebooting did it... still buggy, this IVisit... Au-: there she is tho im afraid ive been mean to her life: bye lia life: jef is decent again signmonger: lia is ther and gone... ria is there 2 times life: split personality snarg: so how's my pic today.... am i moving? life: good pic, shaky moves signmonger: u iz mo foto j'nic zen pik asso life: stil lsays Gael... :) [fakeshop]: is the bride of frankensatein in some sort of bondage situation signmonger: {:+] snarg: i found that light/high contrast helps. i think it has to do with the compression/codec maybe signmonger: frank never got ze wife..... Au-: all tied up and with clay in her poor, poor eyes life: jef, you're right arm is missing ! snarg: i know it still says gael snarg: u have some banner mode that i have'nt been able to find yet life: Au - clay !? Some new BDSM scene thang ? signmonger: uhav it all Au-: yes... its a new york thing... :-) life: thought so... mundo wacko...miss NY [fakeshop]: so the bride has been sacrificed to art? life: fake...funny... 100 AMPERSAND artificial ? Au-: on the altar of conceptualizm life: Hi there Gaelie ! Saw you ! signmonger: the bride is not the sacrifice ..... the bride is babylon.... [fakeshop]: i guess we're staring into each otheres eyes now life: where the truth lies... lia: which one? life: sign...how do you get that banner scrolling ? signmonger: to be or not is wot i got no mo no less this be bless Au-: life... the triangle next to your window has a banner option Au-: click in the space and start typing life: yea, I know...can only switch it off/on signmonger: so Ivisit sayz u is zere life: gate is in ? gate: hellooooo life: we were just contemplating on the meaning of life... life: sorry U missed it... :) Au-: there you are gate gate: ther is no meaning life: gate has Art at his back ! life: yea...46 signmonger: just crashed but frankenstein has no wife just a mother gate: crashing is part of this paradign gate: who set up the room signmonger: not me I'm a follower not a leader snarg: did the server just go down? gate: phil when i crashed--did the room come down gate: hi jef signmonger: I just went down so I dunny know snarg: hi ken :) gate: riea you should kill one of your feeds in case someone wants in signmonger: OK so I've had a few drinks but for me this is kind of socialising Au-: ok gate: the capacity is 8 gate: sincen you deserve to be 2 signmonger: beyond my capacity... gate: jef is that a cd looming over your head' signmonger: eez zees a gud izee weez zo uglee snarg: yeah it's reflecting gael life: hugs to Gael signmonger: guy has alreddy inz zee goa tropical zidewayzz zone life: not quite gate: ohh i see i see signmonger: me neither... gate: hi gael gate: lia is that an ultrasound of your uterus signmonger: kalif hz most lite signmonger: hey let's not get personal life: gate, U look older than I imagined...sorry ;-) gate: i was just going to say--i think she's having twins signmonger: shit I imagined something a lot worse considering... gate: i AM older then u imagined gate: older then i imagined lia: no, has something to do with breast cancer. life: tell signmonger: in fact I can understAnd how he got the credit now gate: actually its the camera gate: i am 13 like antiorp life: hehe signmonger: from sweden...long digital nites womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: fake can i come visit your shop sometime? life: jef, avoid arm stiffness by all means ! gate: try chicago [fakeshop]: yes snarg: guy________what do you mean? womanonfire: kewl life: we still need you and your left arm... signmonger: chicago chicago... it's a hell of a town snarg: guy______________WHAT DO U MEAN? lia: it`s ALL BETTER in black and white. life: let that CD down ! signmonger: et kesskilyaodladesettekno? life: B/W huh ? Ok... brb gate: ok so what are we going to do with this signmonger: sheet you don't pik up gud steuuff in zzee st. fer nowt [fakeshop]: (private) private chat? signmonger: tekno trouve gate: ready for my closeup cb lia: glad to have one more reason to not buy a TV snarg: has Z! been here? life: yes gate: oui signmonger: sorry ken.....you jewish? womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: public private gate: till i crashed da room life: no gate: can yo see below my desk? signmonger: kewel salomon my fave geez! life: woman is in het softfocus cammode again signmonger: don't wanna after last nite on ze Ivisit life: spreekt er hier iemand Nederlands eigenlijk ? signmonger: only hard liquor left.... lia: das klingt immer irgendwie wie ... wie.... signmonger: amsterdam.....why bother>? snarg: ken______want to see what Z! looks like? :) life: irgendwie ? love that word ! :) gate: sure signmonger: first we take manhattan then whatever's left.... lia: dat klengt imma igendwee ? life: ouch ! Austrian ! ;-) gate: guy do you always work on your back snarg: is he coming through? :) lia: what cat (1-4?) life: 4 - plush womanonfire: what a cute kitty gate: where womanonfire: lifecam signmonger: the greek orthodox moslem....peace train gate: hey i am allergic to cats life: that's the one who leaves hair in my Campari's and vomits all over the place :) lia: 3? gate: lovely life: there's her mother at the back... signmonger: shit that's life life: there was another one... signmonger: mother doesn't get out much anymore I take care of the motel life: hitch... gate: im going to burn one...try to point the cam life: cock... life: ...norman... life: bates... life: zuper's back snarg: Z! :) zuper: 't is ier vollen bak! womanonfire: ZZZZZZ! life: ja, gaat nogal ne gang, zenne ! signmonger: not much better than Z!'s front signmonger: hey watch it gal he's married.. zuper: (private) My favorite woman on fire! lia: z signmonger: ze only revolution is zoo-ologique.... womanonfire -> zuper: hey there womanonfire -> zuper: private mode womanonfire -> zuper: weird signmonger: gate lives in a mafia run pizzeria? signmonger: r u still there fake? zuper: (private) There seems to be more private talks than others... womanonfire -> zuper: yes so many people here tonight in the hell.lounge zuper: (private) Has any sex taken place yet? signmonger: hey I don't mind talking to myself....u get used to it u know life: ... womanonfire -> zuper: unfortunately not yet ;_) zuper: (private) Let's start some... :D signmonger: ain't no sunshine now she's gone.... lia: yessss, each computer should have a folder called lia! that`s the main aim! ::))))))) zuper: Lia looks great tonight! life: jef, your pic hasn't been moving since ages... ? womanonfire -> zuper: but i cant see you and thats no fun signmonger: that must be nice zuper: (private) Touch me. snarg: how about now? womanonfire: go lia! go life: zoum out Z life: snarg..no moving snarg... zuper: (private) I can feel you. signmonger: life is like grass...all things pass life: yea... i know ;=) zuper: (private) Ypou have numbers on your fingers. womanonfire -> zuper: and letters in my eyes lia: go? snarg: brb........ signmonger: someone out there has a concept of how to make this into ...."spectacle" womanonfire: that was meant as encouragement life: gate ? lia: life? lia: zuper? lia: womanonfire? life: we're here zuper: (private) You're and open book, spelt backwards. lia: sign lia: ? lia: frz life: frz ? lia: :) signmonger: HERE womanonfire: we are receiving u life: gate looks stoned life: U C ? He's smiling ! life: and again ! womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: so where ru located? womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: brooklyn right? zuper: (private) ... signmonger: so now if I want a drink i's the VSOP lia: thanks for the canvas-advice. womanonfire -> zuper: sorry i wuz having zex w/ someone else [fakeshop]: (private) williamsburg, zuper: (private) :) gate: does the more people on this think slow it down [fakeshop]: (private) and you? life: lia - U C, I told you so ! ;-) gate: thing signmonger: say ton daystun signmonger: death is a lot like life.... womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: manhattan/east vil life: waddaymean ? signmonger: where is petah, peter....jef? [fakeshop]: (private) oldfashionedphonetypething=718.599.6565 womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: snailconferencing--->212 614 1676 lia: guy, are these people still around next month ? ;) life: might be... but the cats f(u)r sure ! [fakeshop]: (private) which name do you prefer for yourself? signmonger: time.... lia: pfhu! :) womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: riea is my analog name signmonger: no guarantees...... gate: jef did you put us on hold life: woman is on the phone again... signmonger: VSOP life: tsjing ! snarg: i rebooted to see if my image would work signmonger: tut a fay life: works a bit better now... signmonger: tao zuper: Beware of too much happiness life: Z!, what's your fps ? signmonger: no danger...not here.. zuper: wof = 0.6, gate = 0.4, fake = 0.1 zuper: wof now 4.3 life: yours ? [fakeshop]: (private) dont you think one of these computer experts is smart enough to intercept this private chat? I feel funny, another level into the domain behind the velvet rope. life: wof 4.0, gate=0, snarg=.4 sign=7.8 U=0.0 signmonger: antiorp=aunty=elvis signmonger: green is somehow fascist [fakeshop]: oh my god 0.1 fps how embarrassing signmonger: opinions life: fake's alife ! :) womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: i hope no one can intercept would kinda negate the concept of private but sure someone could if they *really* wanted to. life: well....almost signmonger: nationalised dial up seems to be OK but.... [fakeshop]: (private) maybe theres some subject matter for a theme here, or were you one of those against a theme? signmonger: good zat weez embarassayed by dif shit lia: do the cats live?, they never move, you just move the camera....hmmmmmm womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: no themez r ok life: they always sleep... especially this one...emvy their lifes... signmonger: hate seeing wot I look like [fakeshop]: (private) that eye was cool can you do that again, i want to take a framegrab life: but don't U love woman's eyelid !? :) womanonfire -> [fakeshop]: your wish is my command signmonger: her majesty her majesty her majesty her majesty her majesty her majesty her majesty life: gate's typing and it's private signmonger: there is no life worth the green eyed beast gate: how can you tell..its the one figure & the glance at the keyboard life: again...your eyes give it away :) signmonger: love of woman is not a straightforward thing zuper: Love of a man is? signmonger: what do you mean by on fire? lia: greeneyed ---> beast ? signmonger: damn your eyes... womanonfire -> signmonger: on fire= womanonfire -> signmonger: beyond control lia: all or just green ones? womanonfire: eyes are windows to the soul zuper: on = about? gate: trying to follow this conversation is a very zen thing life: tao ! ;_) life: I tching ! [fakeshop]: (private) thankyou life: nebraska ! gate: thank god for riea for providing the images to look at signmonger: by ze reeverz ov barbeelawn vayre I layz dow...rararaspooteen life: lips !! zuper: (private) stop teasing life: teeth ! life: pixels ! life: thumb ! life: sorry, index finger ! signmonger: don't invade russia or UK or stuff 'cos all conquest is limited womanonfire -> zuper: you will appreciate it more this way life: mouth ! signmonger: pronounced hoo givz a fuk...... life: camel ! life: red lights ! zuper: (private) your fire signmonger: dependz where you want to look you old goat.. life: hahaaha life: to the right of me gate: this golfball ain't a bad macro signmonger: wish I could keep mine but A life of poverty and bad diet and then I'd have to be a millionaire before.. life: face life: hands life: ..thinking... womanonfire: thinking... life: lia new still womanonfire: reading... life: what ? womanonfire: you life: I'm just a teddy bear womanonfire: wish i could bum a cig from gate lia: n, shit, forgot smoking til now and ..... signmonger: my toilet is the next waterfall to be featured in Pirelli.. life: what about a NYc cig ? lia: have to leave for some minutes.... womanonfire: come on over signmonger: talk about....BSkwoi... lia: smoke at window only.... womanonfire: thanx gate :-) signmonger: stop that life!!! you know that it don't lead nowhere nice life: lighter...smile gate: my pleasure signmonger: I wanna be your fashion accessory life: satisfaction gate: funny that so many of us smoke womanonfire: pure pleasure womanonfire: pure disease life: I hate it that I smoke gate: if we have a party in la they will kick me out of the state signmonger: the victory of the consumer life: it's my second worst vice womanonfire: ok... whats the fist womanonfire: first gate: i love it that i smoke..everyone else hates me for it gate: ok life: being a jerk in general gate: so gate: whats gate: the first womanonfire: hes a jerk zuper: you're not a jerk, guy, we all love you womanonfire: :-) gate: slight time delay gate: being a jerk is a prerequiset life: I'm a jerk, but love my cats gate: i won't even go there life: count 'em...4 ! signmonger: the hypocritical attitude towards nicotine addiction is reflective of the general irresponsibility of govt.... gate: and signmonger: so gate: jef are there...or is that archived zuper: summer zuper: flower zuper: easter zuper: breeze zuper: forever young life: sex ? zuper: no sex life: ah ? ok. gate: sex & violets zuper: "you will appreciate it more this way" womanonfire: ah yes zuper: green zuper: sweaters gate: whats it signmonger: hey maybe it's that sentimental phase of alcohol kcking in but....love you all... zuper: pure wool zuper: skin gate: cash life: Z! - I made a mix of your work.... womanonfire: Z!EX signmonger: no body is VSOP U know thAt ria... signmonger: just horses for courses womanonfire: VSOP! zuper: Life: you did what? womanonfire: ???? life: see cam signmonger: don't get fucky you guys...just had an evening wiv ze arties.... zuper: sneeze zuper: rip zuper: squeeze zuper: hold zuper: lick gate: godbleee you signmonger: opinion is the glorious domain of the reechan zee ... life: ermmm..sex ? signmonger: labia,,,,and then.... zuper: I miss J zuper: Jef snarg: yeah? signmonger: L'amour eat l'enfant de salope... [fakeshop]: translation of VSOP please? womanonfire: yes yes yes womanonfire: VSOP? life: jef zuper: very sophisticated oral problem signmonger: poese l'evolution de la demande de la teet/// zuper: TEETH life: hahaha... signmonger: girl wot u zink? zuper: smoke [fakeshop]: signmonger: no body is VSOP U know thAt ria... signmonger: just horses for courses womanonfire: VSOP! zuper: VSNOB zuper: blue pubic hair signmonger: be cool be freeeeee!!!!!!!! signmonger: loe freely gate: fake are you here or is that your aura signmonger: life is short [fakeshop]: oh i see, a snob with blue pubid hair, thank you signmonger: nothing is ......... signmonger: tell me.. signmonger: VSOP high alcohol content [fakeshop]: im paracticing transparent lurking life: hands ! signmonger: is adrug and I ain't commercant zuper: more smoke gate: we can almost lurkk thru you life: 1 hand clapping life: vsophand zuper: (private) read zuper: (private) want gate: can you be transparent & move womanonfire -> zuper: write womanonfire -> zuper: have zuper: (private) fingers stroke keyboard [fakeshop]: im working on that signmonger: Fake is here there and everuwhere baby.... zuper: (private) hold gate: i am lurking thru you zuper: (private) heart womanonfire -> zuper: press zuper: bed zuper: (private) close womanonfire -> zuper: there signmonger: in some kind of way it's normal that I take all the shit...I kinda got robust somewhere down the line zuper: fog in he womanonfire -> zuper: bare zuper: (private) buttocks zuper: (private) |) signmonger: I seem to have crashed without crashing.. womanonfire: no crashing allowed signmonger: I've lost all control over Ivisit except its still there gate: is this program buggy or is it my lack of horsepower zuper: horse zuper: hot horse gate: i can type faster then this little fucking box can take it and i type one word a minute signmonger: I think it must be time to say goodnight zuper: REBOOT womanonfire -> zuper: addiction zuper: (private) no [fakeshop]: yeah that sounds fishy zuper: (private) not addiction zuper: (private) no satisfaction signmonger: thats the thing with allowance zuper: (private) no extasy zuper: (private) just urge lia: have to phone ..... signmonger: think about what we got to do...this program is amazing life: with Riea ? [fakeshop]: i need to go soon, also signmonger: nobody is giving any consideration to content.....because the content market is dull lia: anotherone zuper: bed time womanonfire: life? signmonger: I loved the alcohol myth but in the end i t was a myth life: i *SHOULD* so some work... signmonger: in the end you can only go so far in life.... gate: nite euro brethern signmonger: signmonger: the rest is BS life: hehe.. snarg: i gotta run downtown now life: the nite is still young life: 1:48 AM signmonger: goodnight.... or good afetrnoon gate: time to burn one.....in windy LA zuper: I'm still young too, but... womanonfire: bye snarg [fakeshop]: so was it good for you too? signmonger: sorry bad spelling signmonger: is jef still ther? life: we touch a lot our faces... snarg: cu life: cu zuper: bye jef [fakeshop]: bye life: bye signmonger: life in the fast lane.... life: nice loft with antlers, gate ! :) zuper: (private) why do all people in front of a computer hold their finger to their heads? signmonger: all mod cons... womanonfire -> zuper: good question signmonger: who is there now? womanonfire: still here zuper: (private) one more cigarette... life: holding strong here womanonfire -> zuper: just one more... zuper: (private) and then sleep womanonfire -> zuper: ssssssslleeeeeeeeep womanonfire -> zuper: no sleep 4 me zuper: (private) deep zuper: (private) soft zuper: (private) away womanonfire -> zuper: bad signmonger: according to Ivisit gate is still here life: which color is best for an iMac ? signmonger: grey womanonfire: tangerine zuper: grey! life: nobeige womanonfire: black!! signmonger: beige/grey life: yes !!! :) life: someone is doing black new G3's... signmonger: and square....compartmentalised. womanonfire: excellent signmonger: russians were the only peole who got a chance at design....and they're mad lia: still here but phoning womanonfire -> zuper: fantaZ! zuper: (private) my favorite drink womanonfire -> zuper: crush womanonfire -> zuper: orange signmonger: chi kung.....if ever u feel ze nid womanonfire: kung chi lia: 2:01 zuper: (private) my favorite color womanonfire: king chu zuper: (private) crush signmonger: ich gnik womanonfire -> zuper: crutch lia: ack lia: b signmonger: breath well think well feel well be well - sorry but it don't change the rest zuper: (private) crotch signmonger: is it just us gals? womanonfire -> zuper: clutch womanonfire: yea zuper: (private) now! life: how do you get a still pic in the video window ? lia: copy,paste, 160x120, signmonger: than yiou should considering... lia: or if you don`t have video? life: i dit c/p, but not 160x120 lia: think it must work also 320x240 ;) lia: proportions! zuper: (private) proportions lia: sale me the cam ? ;) life: nope...doesn't work... womanonfire -> zuper: dispropotionate signmonger: nothing to copy nothing to paste life: err...no... but U can use it in March signmonger: alisrelatif womanonfire -> zuper: not a word oops signmonger: onewayorzeuvver womanonfire -> zuper: try again womanonfire -> zuper: again womanonfire -> zuper: again womanonfire -> zuper: again zuper: (private) i love you womanonfire -> zuper: again zuper: (private) sleep with me in the network lia: was das z? signmonger: in march gAte will tAke allhis children and hide in my country place bacause deals wiv MOMA never work however optimistic you R womanonfire -> zuper: kiss and tell lia: you got it! zuper: (private) just kiss womanonfire -> zuper: kisZ! and tell life: there U are...best of all worlds ! zuper: (private) talk with air gate: ok so does that mean you don't want your truckload of sony goodies to play with life: talking to me, are U talking to me !? womanonfire -> zuper: byte and eat signmonger: if Z!is there he does zownds life: or are U talking to me ? zuper: (private) yes byte gate: phil gate: killer sunset but my cord to short& the sun is too brite signmonger: best of all world's womanonfire -> zuper: simulate stimulate zuper: (private) simulation is real gate: big brite sun reflecting on pacific ocean--thru eucaliptus trees blowing in the wind signmonger: I believe in vot I see... signmonger: and ze rest belongs to someone else signmonger: we ain't touched on politik yet??? signmonger: somewhere down the line... life: nice kitten, Lia ! :) signmonger: kind of trust you guys though signmonger: the koala stinking of eucalyptus gets pArted from his love signmonger: to entertain and educate someplace weird.. zuper: (private) the cigarette didn't help me womanonfire: lia must get a cam life: jef'n'gael womanonfire -> zuper: breathe deep lia: it always sleeps ;) zuper: (private) i'm breathing womanonfire -> zuper: deeper... zuper: (private) can you feel it womanonfire -> zuper: yes zuper: (private) can you hear it lia: nonono, don?t wanna cam....nono`. womanonfire -> zuper: yessssssssssssssssssss life: Veerle (pregnant) and Jef zuper: (private) never leave me lia: flowers :) lia: tnx z! womanonfire -> zuper: never signmonger: she can have one of mine....orpheus(2cams) womanonfire -> zuper: say zuper: you're welcome womanonfire -> zuper: never zuper: (private) but is feels so good when you whisper it at night lia: o.k. womanonfire -> zuper: good when you scream zuper: (private) don't scream please, I only like soft and silent things lia: look exactly like mine ? womanonfire -> zuper: expect the unexpected life: yea, there eurotwins... zuper: (private) all my senses are open zuper: (private) like flowers life: Z! in his younger days ! ;-) lia: by the way, i HAVE a cam, how do you think i could have pictured my cats? life: :) womanonfire -> zuper: evey poor pore womanonfire -> zuper: every poor pore womanonfire -> zuper: pure womanonfire -> zuper: vein vain vane zuper: (private) receiving fingers zuper: (private) receiving tongue lia: z!s garden? zuper: (private) lips zuper: (private) breath signmonger: I've seen sun and I've seen rain I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end womanonfire -> zuper: saliva womanonfire -> zuper: tounge womanonfire -> zuper: skin signmonger: tak ... fascist conglomerate.... womanonfire -> zuper: sensation zuper: (private) i want to be wet by you life: mommy cat when she was young lia: ey!!!!!! signmonger: samaytonpar signmonger: austria judaism und ze udder esoteric europe..... womanonfire -> zuper: feel it womanonfire -> zuper: i signmonger: kellshar? womanonfire -> zuper: eye zuper: (private) lick your eye signmonger: even in hell there seems to be a complete fear of ..... lia: waldheim. signmonger: dans mon jardin extraordinaire... womanonfire -> zuper: take womanonfire -> zuper: hold signmonger: what have you all got that you are so afraid of losing? zuper: (private) i take and i hold zuper: (private) i'm going to fly womanonfire -> zuper: fly away zuper: (private) hold me tight lia: I've seen sun and I've seen rain I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end---> lucky you. here in vienna we did`nt see the sun for the last 9-10 weeks. womanonfire -> zuper: i hold and i take womanonfire -> zuper: and i..... zuper: (private) we're off! signmonger: goethe? womanonfire -> zuper: climax womanonfire -> zuper: again womanonfire -> zuper: again womanonfire -> zuper: again zuper: (private) no no womanonfire -> zuper: again zuper: (private) no climax womanonfire -> zuper: never zuper: (private) postpone zuper: (private) slow down zuper: (private) float womanonfire -> zuper: i cant slow down zuper: (private) your breath is the air womanonfire -> zuper: i lack control lia: eh.... zuper: (private) ok zuper: (private) then I will follow you womanonfire -> zuper: the air around you zuper: (private) where are you taking me? signmonger: is a rose of another colour..... lia: light signmonger: austria...germany...croatia...the europe....that I live in? womanonfire -> zuper: burn womanonfire -> zuper: i burn zuper: (private) yes zuper: (private) consume signmonger: where are you going? life: sign...more VSOP ! lia: log-book: the speed of light is 1.6 fps zuper: (private) open womanonfire -> zuper: warm me more womanonfire -> zuper: warm you signmonger: you never heard of.... zuper: (private) your hands feel so big signmonger: the things that happened???? zuper: (private) your mouth is all around me gate: eucalypyus tree swaying in wind womanonfire -> zuper: tasting life: gate - do you have koala's too ? zuper: (private) i'm your fruit signmonger: or you just don't care? womanonfire -> zuper: sweetness within signmonger: somewhere else?? gate: if you look on patio to left of tree you can see koala drinking a fosters signmonger: not me. lia: humanz are stupid. signmonger: not us. zuper: (private) sweet sweat lia: i can`t change it. signmonger: not now. lia: thanks for that, guy. signmonger: living loving just like a woman.... signmonger: j'y suis life: this one's for Riea... :) gate: sky is orange & magenta..ocean is purple signmonger: my only friend..... womanonfire: um... thanx womanonfire -> zuper: ripe rip zuper: (private) peel me signmonger: lafff i grew up in europe..... womanonfire -> zuper: restrain womanonfire -> zuper: surge forward zuper: (private) it will be worth it life: for phil... zuper: (private) come in now! lia: watchin sign: i have to smoke again. womanonfire -> zuper: play with me womanonfire -> zuper: toy with me zuper: (private) here is my hand life: for gate... womanonfire -> zuper: i control you zuper: (private) yes zuper: (private) i can feel it life: for Z! womanonfire -> zuper: intensity zuper: (private) your hands on my head my hands in your hair signmonger: and arayanya left with the favoured tribe....to collect the weapons... zuper: (private) your air signmonger: but the fight was fixed zuper: (private) electricity womanonfire -> zuper: you burn me i burn womanonfire -> zuper: softly zuper: (private) we become sparks signmonger: and all things are knowable except ... zuper: (private) thousands of sparks womanonfire -> zuper: a sensuous smoke life: for all of you ! peace & love.... zuper: (private) touch smoke life: gotta do some work now... life: bye womanonfire -> zuper: slips through your fingers womanonfire: good night life zuper: (private) your fingers are smoke my fingers are smoke womanonfire: luv 2 u zuper: by life zuper: bye life? zuper: hello death! life: buy life !? ;-) zuper: (private) sweet small death womanonfire -> zuper: your fingers zuper: (private) my fingers womanonfire -> zuper: touch so much womanonfire -> zuper: my body gate: z your up prettlate womanonfire -> zuper: feels.... zuper: (private) I'm smoke I go everywhere gate: that is gatespeak for late zuper: yes gate, I'm addicted to a woman on fire zuper: (private) feels womanonfire -> zuper: rythm zuper: (private) yesss womanonfire -> zuper: writhing womanonfire -> zuper: turning womanonfire -> zuper: spinning womanonfire -> zuper: seething zuper: (private) around me zuper: (private) around you womanonfire -> zuper: all over you womanonfire -> zuper: on you womanonfire -> zuper: in me zuper: (private) i'm opening up zuper: (private) on me womanonfire -> zuper: in you zuper: (private) ine me zuper: (private) i can feel you zuper: (private) you're inside of me womanonfire -> zuper: yes zuper: (private) my heart beats so fast... gate: think my attemps at the sunset..fried my camera gate: tsk tsk womanonfire -> zuper: need womanonfire -> zuper: to womanonfire -> zuper: catch gate: it was borrowed womanonfire -> zuper: your womanonfire -> zuper: breath zuper: (private) I'm breathing as slow as I can zuper: (private) breathe me lia: tomorrowStopSmoking. zuper: (private) and can't hold it much longer gate: one has to go to dinner..... womanonfire -> zuper: i go deeper zuper: (private) yesssss.... womanonfire -> zuper: find the place womanonfire -> zuper: just right there womanonfire -> zuper: right zuper: (private) i never realized you could go so deep in me womanonfire -> zuper: there lia: hey wof, when all guyz leaved i`ll connect my cam ;) zuper: (private) yes zuper: (private) i am here womanonfire -> zuper: i will live there zuper: (private) within me zuper: (private) touching you zuper: (private) live here womanonfire -> zuper: staying there zuper: (private) always womanonfire -> zuper: moving only slightly zuper: (private) only slightly womanonfire -> zuper: just enough to make you feel it womanonfire -> zuper: then zuper: (private) so sensitive deep inside womanonfire -> zuper: then womanonfire -> zuper: give you more womanonfire -> zuper: gradually womanonfire -> zuper: filling you zuper: (private) almost pain lia: womanonfire -> zuper: pleasure pain lia: lia: lia: lia: lia: lia: lia: lia: lia: lia: lia: lia: zuper: (private) so good lia: :) womanonfire -> zuper: weakness=strength womanonfire -> zuper: let go completely zuper: (private) I'm liquid womanonfire -> zuper: i smear you all over me all over you womanonfire -> zuper: drinking deep womanonfire -> zuper: sinking zuper: (private) I almost disappear zuper: (private) in you zuper: (private) I can't see the difference between outside and inside anymore womanonfire -> zuper: there is none zuper: (private) I'm exploding softly zuper: (private) eternally womanonfire -> zuper: imploding zuper: (private) disappearing zuper: (private) i want to smell you womanonfire -> zuper: existance is darkness womanonfire -> zuper: emitting zuper: (private) darkness is endlesness zuper: yes, sign, we're still here lia: yes, but you won`t hear anything, because there`s no microphone connected ;) lia: ah, heard something.... lia: again? lia: ;) lia: how can i see who speaks/sings....? zuper: (private) one more cigarette womanonfire -> zuper: just one more womanonfire -> zuper: i just want a drag lia: what do you want to know? zuper: (private) smoke with me lia: that i think it`s o.k.???? lia: don`t wanna talk about politics. zuper: (private) i'll hold it to your lips lia: can`t change HUMANZ lia: can change myself. womanonfire -> zuper: i inhale womanonfire -> zuper: i hold it in zuper: (private) i hear zuper: (private) i see lia: should i scream everyday? zuper: (private) i open my mouth lia: what to do? womanonfire -> zuper: i hear womanonfire -> zuper: i feel your motion lia: nice words. womanonfire -> zuper: your breath lia: it doesn`t HAPPEN zuper: (private) you're on my chest lia: not even with the people next to you. lia: wing a flag. lia: won`t help. lia: womanonfire -> zuper: skin on skin on skin womanonfire -> zuper: on zuper: (private) the smoke circles around your face and fingers lia: i like pictures, not words. zuper: (private) skin on skin on skin zuper: (private) I have never been this naked before womanonfire -> zuper: so bare zuper: (private) hard and soft zuper: (private) translucent womanonfire -> zuper: glowing zuper: (private) from the inside lia: yes. zuper: (private) I'm going away now, my dear zuper: (private) I will connect to you in Dreamland zuper: (private) hope I will find you there womanonfire -> zuper: ok womanonfire -> zuper: i will search for you zuper: (private) You will always be inside me womanonfire -> zuper: ... zuper: (private) I will never forget you zuper: (private) i can still feel your fingers on my skin womanonfire -> zuper: i left a trace? zuper: (private) yes womanonfire -> zuper: goodnight zuper: (private) goodnight zuper: (private) it was nice zuper: (private) talking zuper: (private) to you womanonfire -> zuper: you too zuper: (private) close eyes zuper: bye! womanonfire -> zuper: ! An then, the tragedy unfolds: She was the sun and he was the moon. She was Medusa, the octopus girl, and he was the pigling, a flowerboy. She was furious fire, he was the solemn sea. Her heart ruled over the deep, dark and hidden. Hismind was lighter than the air. An invincible ocean seperated these two young deities. The chances theywould ever meet were minimal. If it wasn't for that mythical world of wires and servers... [NY scene here?] Working late, Z. hears a noise coming from the kitchen, next to his office. He logs off and goes to take alook. It's dark in the kitchen. The sound is still there, behind him. He turns around and sees what appearsto be some clothes lying on the floor in the corner. It's E. and she's sobbing hysterically. "What aboutyour children?" she cries, "It's hard enough for me to understand why you are leaving me after thesenine years, but how can you be so cruel, so selfish as to leave our two children behind? For god's sake,they're only two and three years old. How could you allow this to happen? Why did you let it come thisfar? How long have you known that girl? A month? How many times have you actually spoken to her?Once? Twice? How can you leave everything we've built up together, our home, our relationship, ourfamily, for this? For god's sake, Z., think about it! Think about what you're doing! Use your head. You'rein love with her. So what? That'll end soon enough. It always does. I know why you have fallen out oflove with me. It's the children. You lost interest in me when I became a mother. I have sacrificed mywhole life for them. And for you. So you could go and follow your ambitions. I was happy that you foundsomebody whom you could work with. I truly was... How could I have been so stupid? And how couldyou?"Z. didn't say a word. He ran out of the room, eyes filled with tears and feeling choked. "She's right. She'sso fucking right. Why am I doing this? I'm a monster. Even worse. I'm an asshole. A pathetic egocentricmale chavenist pig. Like everybody else." A. looked around at the tangles of wires and piles of paper in the afternoon light filtering in from thewindow - the one window in the entire overpriced manhattan cell which recieves light and air from theoutside. The scattered remains of four years on the floor and M. threatening to toss her Mac out thewindow. He puts the box down and seems to crumple from the inside. A. has never seen him this waybefore twisted with emotion and desperation. "You would leave me? This guy is offering you thingsexotic locations and a new life things I cannot compete with." "I just have to get out of here" his facewas transofrmed into a mask likeness of someone i did not recognize. "You just dont get it do you? Iwant to go too. I want to get out of here too, I just always thought we could do it together. Together,why cant you belive that we can change that we can make our live different" get out of this shittyapartment, travel..." I just don't know what I am doing and I do love you I just need time... ok I wontleave I will sit here and we will try to make it work. A cold winter's night on one side and evening on the other side of the ocean. Some of the world's finestweb designers and artists are gathering in an on line video application to see if they can use it for anartistic project. Their group is known as Hell after their web site hell.com. Z. is there, aka Z! And A.,Womanonfire. They had hardly ever communicated with each other except for the odd hell mailing listmessage. She had known and admired his work for a long time and he thought her work was too beautifulto be true. Everybody was there: Gate, Lia, Signmongers, Snarg, Fakeshop... Z. did not have a camerayet and was posting stills while A. was the Webcam Mistress. Her blurry image was mysterious andseducing. And she could play the game so well. She was on a T1 and Z. on a slow modem connection.Nobody knows who ended up seducing whom. Not even the log files can give a clear answer to that. Butfor both A. and Z., it had been one of the most significant nights of their lives. And one of the mostecstatic ones too. As digital artists they focus on sensuality and how to use the seemingly coldtechnology of their medium to communicate on a deep emotional level. A. used mainly pixels for this,while Z. played games with the cursor. Little did they know that plain old ASCII chat could lead to anoverwhelming experience like this. They were both virgins. Lifting each other up into digital clouds.Burning each other. Typing was caressing. Words were wet and hot. There was smoke everywhere.Smoke, mist, steam, clouds. The sun and the moon met. The copper wires had never been this hot before.It was dazzling, hallucinating. And it felt so real. More real than anything they had ever felt before.These two strangers, virgins. Innocent. Hearts beating frantically. Sweating behind the keyboard.Floating, flying, raging. Kiss me. The next morning Z. could not get last night's transparent lover out of his head. He made the first screenof what was going to become their most important communication tool for the next month,Skinonskinonskin. A. responded promptly. Skinonskinonskin in Hell's heavily secured Seaside Motelbecame the last resort for when the frustration caused by the physical distance became unbearable. Forwhen the ASCII chat and staring at each other's webcam images became too painful. It was the beginning of the end. And the beginning of forever. They couldn't help themselves. Everythingfit so well. Both their creative paths had come to some kind of a dead end and suddenly they met the onewho could solve it all. Merging was what they wanted. And they wanted to tell the world about theirlove, their union, their strenth. Entropy8zuper! was born. Entropy8 was her site and on line avatar. AndZuper! was his. Now they were one and started spreading their mysterious motto written in a languagethey shared, Javascript: if ( 1 + 1 == 1 ) { e8z = true; }, when one and one become one, Entropy8zuper!is born. To their surprise and nervous delight, they discovered that their jobs were going to take them to thesame city at the same time in the near future. The Webby Awards in San Francisco. So the date of theofficial launch of entropy8zuper.org was set: they day when they would meet in the flesh for the firsttime.Of course they could see the curse coming the awful irony of the lives they had lived before then. Z.never wanted children but gave them to E. as a christmas present. A never wanted to be the slave of S.but went along because she thought that was what love was all about. And now... rebellion... and the priceto paid comes at the end. Making Genesis, the first part of entropy8zuper.org was an exhilarating experience. Everything went sosmoothly. Never before in their workaholic lives had working together with someone been so perfect.DHTMLove. The process was so natural. They complemented each other perfectly. If this is not a loveaffair, maybe it is even better than that. Having two brains instead of one. Two hearts. Four hands. Nomore 'you' and 'me', only 'us'.Doubts made them feel lighter. With ever protest with every doubt came the certainty that a decision, afinal solution was to be made and she knew what that decision was but not wanting to admit that shecould go against everythign she knew was right. She wanted a cigarette and wanted it bad. On the plane back to him... on yet another flight... she knew the signifigance of his airplane takeoffanimation in EXODUS and WIREFIRE. So this is her life that she lives so eagerly. .. forever withoutregret... To fly from here to there singing his praises.... This was one flight which passed by quickly...too quickly for the wine drunk to wear off... meanwhile.... It was clear to both of them that this was a strictly on line adventure. No way where they ever going toleave their stable relationships just to be with each other physically. That clearly was not an option. Not satisfied with their means of communication yet, they set up an on line office together, with videofeeds from both their offices, a chat application and of course the two clocks: New York time and Belgiantime. It was a place to centralize their work together and to talk to and stare at each other for hours andhours while the modem clock in Belgium was ticking. A. would stay up late working so she could catch aglimpse of Z. when he started his day. And Z. organised his life in Ronse according to New York time. And the clock moves too swiftly as it always does in New York City. Could she make enough this night.could she be worthy of the love of such a beauty. So we met in San Francisco and got over our initial nervousness quite quickly, the strong memory ofcountless hours making love to a keyboard, that plastic emotion made flesh, we spent the mostwonderful time together. The ecstasy we experienced in each other's on line company was multipliedwhen our skins touched and our voices were felt in each other's ears. Step two was taken. Step two toheaven, step two to hell. A. and Z. had to agree to the simple fact that they just had to be together. This was not about a man inlove with a woman or vice versa anymore. This was about fate. About things written in the palm of Godshand. Suddenly their lives had taken on mythical proportions. They were meant to be one. However sillyit may sound, it was the most natural thing in the world to them. The sun and the moon had finally met. In the living room of her small apartment.. very late at night she sat with her best friend B. He didn'twant to know the details and he didn't know it was an affair but A. was spilling something anyway. "Ifinally feel I know my destiny" she said. I've been working with someone who has shown me what I wasmeant to do. With Back on earth, hell started. They both had very stable and comfortable relationships but the stormbetween them was going to obliterate all of that. Nobody had seen it coming. Nobody understood.Everybody was looking for reasons, for explanations. We consulted astrology hand books for clues.Needless to say, very few people supported their love. They were crazy. As good as married.Comfortable. Happy. Children. Good lives that they were destined to destroy. Because they suddenlyturned religious and believed in fairy tales... Yes, they sure deserved each other. Dreamers! Totallyunpractical human beings. Incapable of taking care of themselves, let alone each other. Withoutcompassion and no sense of responsability. Despite their strong love, making decisions wasn't easy. Seperated by the ocean, it became hard torealize how desperately fatal their love was. They tried to reconcile with their partners one day whilepromising each other eternal togetherness the other. Hysterical laughter and desperate crying. A. boughta plane ticket to Belgium and burned it. A. called Z. to tell him she hated him. Z. called A. pathetic. And"the yo-yo from over the ocean"...Sick of being in doubt and feeling too much, Z. turned into a machine, destined to go to New York and sortthings out once and for all. In fact he thought that meeting her for a second time would make him see thatit was all a delusion and that his true home was with his family. He could not have been more wrong. It isfrightening to see two creatures who hardly know each other be so close together, so much one unit.Godlike.Even more determined to live together they went back to the warzones that used to be their homes. Ifyou fall out of love with one person and fall in love with another person next, things are simple. In thiscase, they both had a perfectly nice human relationship. But their union was godlike and god is cruel. It had not ended then. It was awful. What they experienced in these months would make anyone wish theywould never feel again. From the highest ecstasy to the deepest agony. Rusted meat hooks in raw flesh.Tearing everything apart. A. fled her home, put her stuff in storage and asked Z. to buy her a plane ticket. The queen of the webwas broke. Their love had been so expensive. Z. left and found them an apartment not to far from wherehis family lived. He could not live too far from his children. [end here?] She came and they lived like gods. Tasting the world's forbidden fruits. Getting drunk on old cheese andsalmon. She took a James Bond movie title as her motto: "You only live twice". They made Exodus, thestrangely fitting next chapter in their on line Bible at Entropy8zuper!A. was going to stay for a month, after which she had to be in New York again for a while. Their brainstried to tell their hearts that this was a test. During that month the mother of Z's children demanded thathe put A. on a plane and came back or go away and stay away. She was going to keep the children and hewas going to become some uncle to them. Z. died. He left. Blind love. At the station. On the train. This is a beautiful story of eternal love. Beauty is evil. Love is banal. Kiss me. Don't you realize you have given me everything i have ever wanted. Wrapped up and presented on asilver platter. Fame, Artistic fulfillment, The opportunity to learn, Enjoyment of life, Travel, Family,Everything. I cannot bear it, It is only some sort of cosmic joke that you cannot enjoy it. I WANT THISPLANE TO LAND RIGHT NOW. You. Dammit. You are the catalyst... all i have ... all i want... i cannot lie...lcannot try to save face... i must admit it... you are the one... i want No matter what. If we can just get past this... maybe it is a test... but wwe will get past this. I want to feel your freespirit... damn i wish you could still see what i saw in you from the beginning. HYou are special... you areunique, perfecgt, better than the rest... beautiful...you are the most talented web person i have ever met. technology, reasoning, artistry, i know nothingof these. you can make anything happen... if this is your propaganda then i have fallen for it. please come to me.let me hold youjust let me hold you, Put yourself inside me and be as when we first met and knew no0thing but desire and hope.feel yourself dissolve into me.Assimilate our deisres into one. Search for the feelings.Doubt them not a momentResist, postpone but ultimately relent......\\to trust Why cant you trust me.I can do so much for us.I am learning to trust myself... to bring ideas to fruition to take the lead to comfort you in your time ofneed., i am your pu;ppet your doll.i wiould do anything you want anything you told me to do. and that is a big issue in magazine design./././../ how to bridge the gaps betweeen these types and the more socially acceptable formats. i knw that i love you i just know it.,.l. i need to feel you to remember what we;ve had and that is myt fault,. i love you but now i must sleeep\ kiss me.Auriea. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Skinonskinonskin The first page of Skinonskinonskin was made by Michaël the day after we had our first sexual encounter in a chat application. Parts of this chat session can be found in the Words page of Skinonskinonskin. The next day, Auriea responded with Smoke. Skinonskinsonskin became our refuge in the period when we were falling in love through the network. When chat and email proved too restrictive, we resorted to Dynamic HTML to express our feelings and desires, in an attempt to touch the other. Skinonskinonskin I was published on the hell.com server. After we stepped down as active members of this artists' community, we released Skinonskinonskin II on our own server. Since the release of the first version, the site had kept developing. We still needed to communicate to each other. So these later developments were added to the first when we re-released the site. We haven't added much to Skinonskinonskin since we have been living together, but the possibility of future additions is not excluded. Skinonskinonskin tells the story of our love. From the first lusty feelings through the doubt and the pain, the anger and the disappointments. Through the longing and desire, the memories of beautiful hours spent together and the betrayal of love. The clash of responsibilities and duties and promises with the power of passion, love and destiny. Skinonskinonskin testifies to our happiest moments and also to our deepest pain. It is very hard to browse through it indifferently. Even for us. Skinonskinonskin was at first developed in secret in a protected folder on the hell.com server, called SeaSideMotel. Later we decided that some people might enjoy seeing these pages. But as they were so personal, we had not desire to make it too easy to see them. First we made a questionnaire that the user needed to go through before being able to access the site. Ultimately we released the site as a pay per view event on the hell.com server. This was a good way to "keep the riff raff out" while also an experiment with e-commerce. Would people be willing to pay to see a web site? Just like they pay for the cinema, renting a video or seeing a concert? The answer was no. It was only because hell.com had such a massive amount of hits, that we made any money. When we released Skinonskinonskin II on our own server, hardly anyone visited it. It was an interesting experiment, offering our visitors the opportunity to support the artists directly rather than letting them compromise the quality of their work by having to find other sources of income. Interestingly, the experiment has failed. Of the 500 or so visitors that visit our web site daily, about 100 people have signed up in the year that Skinonskinonskin II has been on line. People are simply not willing to pay for access to artists' web sites. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Whispering Windows womanonfire: hello there womanonfire: i was just about to send you another email womanonfire: wondering if that is you that i see in the distance zuper: by the way: hello auriea it is SO NICE TO SEE YOU I almost have tears in my eyes womanonfire: between the green lines of the grid zuper: yes it is me womanonfire: i wonder wht your voice is like zuper: my voice? zuper: let's try zuper: it's weird to talk in a silent office at night womanonfire: yes womanonfire: i can just barely make you out womanonfire: how fitting womanonfire: it sounds so far away but you feel so close zuper: yes zuper: i am close zuper: i don't understand myself womanonfire: i will write you a very long letter tonight zuper: I'm falling in love with a 160x120 pixel video... zuper: Yes please write me a long letter womanonfire: it is dificult for me here right now zuper: why is it difficult? womanonfire: i was just about to write one about this womanonfire: because i love you zuper: ... womanonfire: seems so womanonfire: strange womanonfire: maybe it is lust womanonfire: i cant tell anymore zuper: pixellust? womanonfire: right zuper: I my case only ASCIIlust... womanonfire: but i want to make a home for us womanonfire: in the network zuper: Have you read Sterlings 'Holy Fire'? womanonfire: no zuper: They have places called 'Memory Palaces' on the net zuper: where they keep all their souvenirs and where people can meet womanonfire: i just heard you that time womanonfire: ! zuper: in dutch! womanonfire: yes! zuper: (private) I realised today that I have never been in love with somebody who doesn't speak Dutch before. womanonfire -> zuper: i have never been in love with someone in another country before zuper: (private) I have never been in love with someone with green dreadlocks before zuper: (private) let alone black skin womanonfire -> zuper: yes i hope you wiwll like my skin zuper: (private) I already do. womanonfire -> zuper: :) zuper: (private) Your voice sounded higher than I had imagined... zuper: (private) (What did I imagine then??) womanonfire: i long to hear your voice in my ear zuper: (private) zuper: (private) zuper: (private) womanonfire: the sound is a bit distorted with these things zuper: (private) yes womanonfire: if no one was around me here zuper: (private) the image is distorted too womanonfire: i would speak to you zuper: (private) but that's ok womanonfire: yes! womanonfire: these are all part of our relationship womanonfire: these limitations womanonfire: we must zuper: (private) 26 letters, no sound, no image womanonfire: learn new ways zuper: (private) make DHTMLove to me... womanonfire: i plan to womanonfire: its all i want to do womanonfire: tell eveyone i can no longer work for them womanonfire: and spend all my time womanonfire: DHTMLove womanonfire: image! zuper: image zuper: (private) my favorite on fire zuper: (private) i see zuper: (private) I'm touching my monitor but it just doesn't feel like you... zuper: (private) our eyes met zuper: (private) youdidn't see that of course womanonfire: i could feel it zuper: (private) i wish i could type blindly womanonfire: you are there zuper: (private) yes zuper: I'll make you a keyboard with a cast of my body womanonfire: i am fondleing my keyboard womanonfire: but it dosent feel like you womanonfire: oh well the fragments we have are beautiful zuper: why is a computer screen only 2D? womanonfire: lack of foresight by the industry zuper: your eyes womanonfire: your words............... womanonfire: your images......... womanonfire -> zuper: i can hear your heartbeat zuper: (private) you can? womanonfire -> zuper: you should go get some sleep womanonfire -> zuper: it must be late there zuper: (private) yes it's almost 2 AM zuper: (private) I can't bare the thought of going to bed without you zuper: (private) I didn't want to become addicted womanonfire -> zuper: now i am trembling womanonfire -> zuper: no addiction zuper: (private) I can feel it womanonfire -> zuper: i have to go zuper: (private) ok zuper: (private) you go zuper: (private) i stay zuper: (private) just one more cigarette womanonfire -> zuper: just one more womanonfire -> zuper: i will write you a long letter zuper: (private) Yes write me a long letter zuper: (private) We're here for each other womanonfire -> zuper: yes zuper: (private) goodnight, my dear zuper: (private) kiss womanonfire: (private) yes womanonfire: (private) hold zuper: (private) yes womanonfire: disconnect only the software zuper8: disconnect zuper8: only zuper8: the software womanonfire: fade... zuper8: fade... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Godlove "/godlove" is the name of the directory where entropy8zuper.org started. It contains "The Godlove Museum" and "Closer" The term finds it roots in this chat between us dated 02-15-99: womanonfire: i am just not able to believe in forver womanonfire: its a sad thing for me zuper8: forever is a metaphor womanonfire: to have sucha flaw womanonfire: a metaphor zuper8: there are more than 4 dimensions zuper8: in at least one of those 'forever' or 'endlessness' exists zuper8: in one of those dimensions zuper8: i love you forver zuper8: +e womanonfire: that sounds like a better definition than the others ive heard zuper8: definition of what? womanonfire: i love you zuper8: forever womanonfire: description of forever womanonfire: forever is now zuper8: it's not like a dogma zuper8: it's just an idea, a feeling womanonfire: i have so many feelings, forever must be one of them zuper8: yes forever is now womanonfire: i love you womanonfire: forever zuper8: but time doesn't matter in the dimension of forever zuper8: forever yours womanonfire: you are gonna make me cry zuper8: you make me cry all the time zuper8: tears of sorrow zuper8: tears of joy zuper8: it becomes hard to distinguish womanonfire: yes zuper8: we might be transgressing a point zuper8: the point where opposites cease to be opposites womanonfire -> zuper8: i dreamed, i dream <----- my favorite sonicyouth song womanonfire: and become the same? zuper8: (private) sing to me zuper8: not the same zuper8: i think womanonfire: or fit together zuper8: but all part of one big experience zuper8: one state of being zuper8: maybe love? womanonfire: maybe that is what god is zuper8: yes womanonfire: i ve often thought that zuper8: maybe we have found god :) zuper8: godlove womanonfire: godlove womanonfire: ! zuper8: ! zuper8: so genesis wasn't such a bad idea after all... ;) ...... womanonfire: no really i want to meet you and never leave zuper8: yes really zuper8: i know zuper8: zuper8: we will zuper8: some day zuper8: womanonfire: yes womanonfire: someday forever womanonfire: forever now zuper8: i do zuper8: :) womanonfire: :) womanonfire: i do too zuper8: you break all your own rules zuper8: :) zuper8: i do too zuper8: :) womanonfire: its part of the mystique of our relationship zuper8: it is womanonfire: it feels good to break the rules zuper8: beyond our selves womanonfire: and we can be everything to each other zuper8: yes zuper8: no rules zuper8: only one constraint womanonfire: yes zuper8: some kind of magnetism zuper8: keeping us together zuper8: moving as one womanonfire: love zuper8: love zuper8: womanonfire: lovers zuper8: deeplove zuper8: widelove zuper8: eternallove womanonfire: godlove zuper8: godlove zuper8: let's call our /web directory /godlove womanonfire: yes womanonfire: lets zuper8: consider it done :) womanonfire: dancing zuper8: i will never be able to follow your dance Going to this directory one is initiated into our habit of pasting bits of story in places where they wouldn't normally show. Also here if one views the source is the entire latin text of Dante's Paradiso placed on the page by Auriea to mark the 2nd anniversary of her meeting Michael. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Closer Closer is our old information section. It still contains some unique bits of information, like the credits pertaining to different projects. We are seen split in two. Because this was one of the first meta-sites we made for Entropy8Zuper.org, and it was made while we were still living far apart the symbolism of the aplit screen was meant as a way to describe us as two things which online are one. And when we wrote our Philosophy out for the first time it was like putting our foot down to not make those same compromises in our vision that we've made in the past. Together we at last had the strength to scratch away the myopic vision of those who would hire us. They will hire us and they will pay and they will see that it is good. Entropy8zuper! is committed to delivering fullblown interactive multimedia to the web. We are not compromising on anything. Our work is not compatible with any old browser. The network is a social place. A place where people live and love and cry and play. Entropy8zuper! makes digital environments for people: emotional, engaging, entertaining. Information technology is not the future. We are. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Contact EMAIL To contact Entropy8Zuper!, please send email to "two@entropy8zuper.org". To contact Auriea Harvey, please send email to "a@entropy8zuper.org". To contact Michël Samyn, please send email to "z@entropy8zuper.org". FAX We do not have a fax machine because we think it is inefficient technology. TELEPHONE We do not have mobile phones because we object to the telephone as a means of communication. A mobile phone only doubles the annoying aspects of the telephone. We think the telephone is intrusive and disrespectful and should be reserved for matters of extreme urgence. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Checklist The checklist is our old home page. We used it during the first two years of our existence as "Entropy8Zuper!". It changed regularly. We have archived some of its itereations and all of its backgrounds in The CheckList Museum. The page consisted of an HTML form. This means that we used standard HTML form elements like buttons and input boxes whose appaerance depends largely on the user's system configuration. This was a design decision, not one motivated by laziness. Don't forget the Michaël won Alexei Shulgin's Form Art Competition in 1997! We liked the contrast of the rudimentary form aesthetic with the elaborate treatment of the rest of the site. But both are the results of the same attitude towards design. An attitude that aims at maximizing the desired impact of the design by all means available. Checklist was meant as a filter. We thought that one could only enjoy our site if one took the time for it. Checklist worked like a brake in ones surfing routine because it made you stop and figure out what to do next. You needed to check a few boxes and press the button -aptly labeled "Button"- in order to continue. The checkboxes referred to the requirements for viewing the site: a fast computer, the right browser, the right plugin and "a physical need for wonder and poetry". The first three were checked for you after running some background tests in Javascript but the fourth required manual checking. Trying to enter the site without checking it, presented you with an error box saying "You need to feel emotionally unstable, hysteric or very patient.", which was an accurate description of how we felt when we started the site (except maybe for the patient part... but we considered that one as a back up solution anyway in case the former two were missing). We felt we needed to replace checklist with something new when our site became too complex and too big for an interface made out of form elements. Looked at in a sentimental way this was the end of an era. Admitting that it was time to let go of the past. It was a difficult thing for us. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Blazon The layout and structure of our current homepage is based on heraldry. We have a general fascination for symbolic ornaments. Heraldry is one of those systems that combine beauty, mythology and information. We like imagery to have meaning. We are not very fond of the trend in modern art to obliterate or discredit the meaing of imagery. Instead we prefer to add meaning to already very pregnant symbols. There is no defence against the baroque. The similarity between the shield and motto combination of blazons and icons and their name on a computer desktop was quite striking to us. The Blazon homepage is a place where a lot of things are happening. We a fantasy about putting our whole site into the Blazon movie up to the point where a browser would not be required anymore to view our work. Just a Flash player or an executable provided by us would do, while the site would remain accessible through a web browser. We have built Wirefire into Blazon. There is a way to access our portfolio database built into The Close Corporation. Our live webcam images are there when you roll over the Entropy8 and Zuper! shields. There is even a real time chat application in the Contact section (click on Talk), where you can also subscribe to our mailing list (Dust) and send us an email message. Blazon contains an XML sockets client which connects all users currently on our home page to each other in real time. This architecture is used for the chat, representing the present visitors and representing their clicks. All of these things are visible to all users who are looking at the home page at the same time. In a way, the visitors create the home page, the spectators create the spectacle. The live clicks on the shields from any user are represented by white pulsating dots. We also log these clicks and represent the results on the shields. At the time of writing, hexagons represent the average number of clicks per day on every shield. This is a way for everyone to monitor acces to our server (or at least to the home page). Furthermore we keep track of the number of people who are looking at this page. Each user has been represented by a bee and later, after the WTC bombing, as the Arab word for Peace. The number of bees/peace equals the number of people looking at this page. Note that at this time the movement of the bees is completely random and has nothing to do with the activity of the users. Later we will want to represent each user by a bee and maybe allow for regular visitors to have there own avatar. Combining this with the already present chat, would turn our modest home page into a full blown graphic chat application. But would you notice that without flashy advertising for vaporware? Blazon is set up in a very modular way. There are seperate layers for foreground, background, click history and visitor count. All of these can be easily replaced by other movies. As a result our home page changes often. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Godlove Museum The name given to our interpretation of the Bible. Currently it contains "Exodus", "Genesis" and "Leviticus". We are working on "Numbers", which should be finished by the end of 2001. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Genesis Genesis was made before we met physically. It was intended as a presentation of us joining forces. It tells about the godlike meeting of souls that we experienced during those days. We did not know at the time that this was going to be the start of a series. We just picked the name Genesis because it was about the start of Entropy8Zuper! and left the rest of that part of the Bible for what it was. Later we came back to Genesis with Eden.Garden 1.0 and we have discussed doing something with the idea of the flood as well. The music in the beginnning is from the Messe in B Minor by J.S. Bach conducted by the splendid Nikolaus Harnoncourt and featuring an almost orgasmic Kyrie duet. We found this coinciding of divine and carnal ecstasy very appealing. Maybe we mistook cyberspace for heaven. In any case, it was by making Genesis that we realize how well our skills and talents complimented each other. We trusted each other perfectly and thought as one brain. The second scene of Genesis is a tribute to the place where we met, an artists group called Hell, again not without religious connotations. Then there is the storm with Auriea and Michael as saints and a sample from a band we had bonded over: Sonic Youth. In the ocean, we start playing with your cursor, a ting we are very fond of doing. The cursor represents your hand. Playing with it is like touching. When you get caught by the upper hand (a scan of Michaels hand holding an actual 'real-size' cardboard version of the famous Netscape pointing finger cursor -later this cardboard was sent to New York as a present; during the making of it, Michael cut a hole in his favorite pants and once again curs the analogue) you end up on the beach, which is like a mini-portfolio, where things developed in the ocean have stranded and are available for your amusement. To get to the Ecstasy scene, you need to go down into the dark depths of the Ocean. Up until this very day, not many computers can handle the Dynamic HTML in this scene very well, especially not when you heighten the ecstasy by typing madly on the keyboard -a thing Auriea and Michael ended up doing quite frequently during those days... The orchid was a symbol of our shameless embrace of the banality of our divine lust. Entropy8zuper.org was launched with Genesis and Closer on the day we first met in the flesh. In room 222 in the San Francisco Triton hotel. On Auriea's cute and rare tiny Japanese Apple Powerbook 2400. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Exodus THE END An Entropy8Zuper! production. After Auriea moved to Belgium, we thought it was appropriate to make a piece called Exodus. About leaving the places that held us down and arriving in each others Milk and Honey. Obviously it starts with the end, the end of our previous lives. And a quote from James Bond, "You only live twice", since we both had left the life that we thought we were going to have for the rest of our lives, since we had both betrayed the person we had promised eternal loyalty to. The empty chair in scene two, the Waiting Room scene, is Auriea's chair in her apartment in New York as seen through her web cam. The little images surrounding it are from webcams too. Airplanes had become part of the network of technology that connected Auriea and Michael. So the site has a tribute to them. The soundtrack is a sample from Bjork's The Hunter, a song Michael played over and over again when he was preparing things for Auriea's arrival, in the car commuting between his ex-home and family where he still lived and the apartment in Gent that he and Auriea were going to share. "If travel is searching and home has been found, I'm not stopping. I'm going hunting. I'm the hunter. I'll bring back the goods. But I don't know when." I'm going hunting, I'm the hunter, I'm the hunter, I'm the hunter. Like all books in The Godlove Museum, Exodus ends with a red(dish) "Ecstasy" scene. This one features five cursors, one for every finger. When you hold the mouse button down, the fingers close. When you release it, they open. It is one of our many attempts of having a physical contact with the pixels, of touching the digital skin. The cursors represent your hand as it has been teleported into the virtual space on the screen. A space that is made up of love and lust and sex and honey dripping dripping. Bees bees bees like the molecules of your body. Touching touching everything. Indecent behavior. Melting. Having had a love/hate relationship with James Bond all her life, You Only Live Twice is Auriea's favorite Bond film. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Leviticus After Genesis, about the birth, and Exodus, about leaving one life to start another, Leviticus is about the rules and customs, and the conflicts with them, and the sacrifices one has to make if one wants to make a new life for oneself. It is the piece that sticks most closely to the Bible text of the three. We actually read the Bible before working on it. And the Book still had a lot to say about our own lives. Or we could make it say a lot about our own lives. Leviticus starts with a quote from Genesis: the "biting" frame borders. And though these make the existence of the lambs difficult, it is ultimately the users who needs to sacrifice them in order to proceed. After which Genesis is quoted again. But when the meeting of hands was glorious in Genesis, it becomes a much less stable thing in Leviticus. Many factors are trying to prevent this meeting, which I guess is the general theme of our Leviticus. Many of those factors are not external but have become part of our being. We are both products of our environments and as such represent its views and morals. It took us a while to discover that a lot of the conflicts we had amongst ourselves, were simply cultural differences that were caused by the programming of our minds by the socio-political environment we had lived in up until that day. On top of that came the practical difficulties like trying to get Auriea to stay in Belgium legally, which caused us a great deal of frustration. Not in the least because we were internet beings: we had already abondonned the concept of country borders altogether and now we were beamed back down to earth where all sorts of old rules still applied. The text on this scene is from one of the many documents involved in Auriea's residency. The spoken quotes from Leviticus were borrowed from the Audio Bible web site. The drum sound is from Jarboe. After making the hands touch three times, a long non-interactive sequence starts. The Sun and the Moon meet as throbbing hearts. The Sun and the Moon represent Auriea and Michaël. Auriea has always felt this personal association with fire and the sun and Michaël has always consider himself related to the moon. This was one of many "coincidences" that came to the surface when we met. After that you get the recipe for preparing a heart. The heart in the movie is actually a pig's heart that we had bought in the local supermarket and sown bock together, a bloody affair. We did not eat this one. We only managed to swallow some chicken hearts in our research, I'm afraid to say. The love incantation is a sample from Lamb(!). The next scene is expanded from a eufimism that is used in Leviticus for menstruation: her flowers were upon her. As you can imagine, in Leviticus, there are some rules involved with this frightening aspect of the female body. "And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean." (15:24) We tought this was very romantic and sexy. So we chose orchids to represent blood flowers. The text tells the tragic story of us leaving our previous lives and really shouldn't be read by sensitive souls. Again, the music is based on a Jarboe sample. I guess we felt Jarboe's music was very Leviticus... Next scene is the chewing of the heart (We covered our faces with oil to record this footage). The background for this is a towel with flowers upon it. The pump machine and memory clouds with Diamanda Galas screaming Leviticus: "Unclean!" Click the machine and now it is your turn to bring the Sun and the Moon together. A nuclear explosion -fascinatingly beautiful- leads to the Ecstasy. Scans of parts of our body, feathers and whithered Tiger Lilly leaves. And our cover of the infamous Serge Gainsbourg hit, "Je t'aime, moi non plus" (previously covered by Nick Cave and Anity Lane as "I love you, nor do I"). A song about l'amour physique that contains lines about coming in between a woman's kidneys and other Leviticus related subject matter. In the end, Leviticus is probably most of all about the conflicts Auriea and Michaël have within themselves, having both commited such a horrible crime and the guilt that is caused by the joy this crime brings us. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Numbers 1. Too much fighting !!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Close Corporation PORTFOLIO We have huge portfolio stored in a MySQL database that contains commercial and personal projects and drafts by Entropy8, Zuper!, Group Z Belgium and of course Entropy8Zuper! Currently, though, the only way to access this database is through the random access in The Close Corporation on our homepage. But we have plans for more efficient systems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Art Collection Currently our corporate art collection contains one piece: Olia Lialina's "If You Want to Clean Your Screen". Purchased in the Alps, 05 June 1999 for $2000USD. he hand of the virgin awaits your action. the holy virgin says: "if you want me to clean your screen scoll up and down" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Heavenly Airport This is a place for take-offs and landings. In other words: this is where everything goes that does not fit in with any of the other groups in the Blazon hierarchy. More importantly however, this is our "live" folder, where things are in constant flux. Very much like the way the areas surrounding airports are always under construction. You can find general silliness here, links to other sites but also links to E8Z! projects. The small things the gizmoes made for others to host. The things that we want to keep in front of our eyes as a reminder to keep them going. Some of these ideas in incubation may become one of our big ideas one day but that day is not today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dust Dust is our mailing list. You can subscribe to it in the Contact section of the home page (click on Spam me!). It is after the specks of dust that we use in Wirefire to represent the participants. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eden.Garden SFMOMA commissioned us to do a piece for their 2001 "010101: Art in Technological Times" exhibition. The budget was 12,000 US Dollars and after much deliberation we decided to use it research a technology that we had known very little of up until then: interactive 3D. We wanted to use this technology to make simulated action figures of ourselves, something we had wanted to do for a long time but never found the time for. At first we thought about making an interactive sex application where the user could manipulate our action figures and move them into poses of the Kama Sutra. But then there was the desire to do something with the Garden of Eden, an aspect of Genesis that we had forgotten when we were doing ours. After many many many hours, days and months of research we discovered a technology that would allow us to use the principles developed earlier for Michaël's Websinger application, to a 3D world. The Websinger analyzes HTML documents and represents them as experimental music. This analyzing of the code of the web was of particular interest to us because it was a time when time was starting to chew away parts of the web. New browsers appeared than were incompatible with old ones, effectlively making part of the web disappear. We were suddenly confronted with death and decay in a space that was supposed to be endless. So as an experiment, we decided to make a whole new kind of browser that wasn't backwards compatible with anything but that still used the same code as its source of inspiration. Yes, visualizing this code is an act of creation, turning the browser into a God. Here's some of the blurb we wrote at the time: As a sequel to the 'Genesis' chapter on our site, we went back and visited the Garden of Eden. "Eden.Garden 1.0" is another way to look at the data one can find on the Internet. Just like a web browser, Eden.Garden analyzes the code of a document and renders it visible (and audible). Unlike a traditional standards-compliant browser, Eden.Garden renders those documents as scenes in the idyllic (or not so idyllic) setting of the Garden of Eden, as a 3d environment through which the user can navigate. We are there as Adam and Eve, dancing to the rhythm of the code. When a visitor types in a URL and presses the button they set the hand of God (the browser) in motion. Every location becomes a new environment full of life. This project started as an idea to 'teleport' ourselves into the networked space. We expanded the idea to show how this new place might look like to our digital selves. It is not unthinkable for visitors to feed the machine their own HTML as building blocks to create their ideal environment... bringing us all one step closer to Bruce Sterling's "Memory Palaces" (from the book "Holy Fire"... we highly reccommend it :D) That among other things: The Web Singer (by Zuper! inspired by the Web Stalker by IOD), Quake, Tekken, the KamaSutra, online gaming and skinning communities, and miscellaneous operatic and painterly sources were endless inspiration for this project. Eden.Garden is Javascript for 'Garden of Eden' (Javascript is a browser-based programming language used heavily in this project for text parsing). This is the start of a huge project, hence the version number in the name. Future versions will take advantage of advances in technology and our growing knowledge in the fields of 3d and real time environment programming. [text from the site] The Garden of Eden works like a browser. You feed it a URL and it interprets the data. The text becomes the engine that drives the dance of the main characters. And the code defines the world. HEAD defines the sky: SCRIPT is sunny, META is gloomy, STYLE is rainy. Javascript elements define the things in the sky: var is a parrot, function is a pigeon, if is an eagle, and window.open is a dragon. TITLE is the sun and /TITLE the moon. A frameset page will render as a desert, while a page with a BODY tag will have a grassy floor. In the desert, a NOFRAMES is rendered as a building and a FRAME SRC as a clickable Belly Dancer. FONT tags show up as rabbits, varying in size according to FONT SIZE specification in the HTML document. An EMBED tag is an orange elephant, an OBJECT tag a yellow one. A FORM becomes a building. !DOCTYPE is a Mountain. A DIV is a metal robot, while a LAYER is a golden robot. A HR is a very long electric line. Tables are forests, TD a wide tree, TR a thin one and TH a short one. BRs are bushes in random sizes. An A HREF is a clickable Buffalo. A P tag is a flower and an IMG tag a butterfly. These two vary according to alignment settings. The dreaded BLINK tag is rendered as a vulcano, a BLOCKQUOTE as a tiger and a CENTER as a replica of a fountain found here in Gent, Belgium. A Java APPLET shows up as a monkey, A NAME tags as peacocks and every LI (list item) as a flamingo. Comments are zebras. The moves Adam and Eve make are based on the traditional moves of characters in 3D games, like Quake3Arena: death1, death2, death3, taunt, weapon attack, melee attack, change weapon, weapon idle, melee idle, crouched walk, walk, run, backpedal, swim, jump forward, jump forward-land, jump backward, jump backward-land, standing idle, crouched idle, turn in place. Only we have replaced the traditionally violent attack gestures from the games by gestures of pillow fights and tickling. Each letter of the alphabet represents a move. The letters on the left side of a computer keyboard are Eve's moves, the letters on the right side those of Adam. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Groorg Groorg A secret project by Michaël initially developed to become his hidden alter ego. Or his Portrait of Dorian Gray. A living organism that would be manipulated and transformed by the visitors of the site and Michaël's darkest secrets. Now, as it has stopped evolving, Groorg Groorg has become a living fossile. A memory of a less glorious life. Maybe it should be killed. But we're not sure if it can be killed. Maybe if we stop paying the Network Solutions bills? This site has not been publicized for a long time and as a result it did not get any visitors. After a year or so, the site was submitted anonimously to the Rhizome artbase as a test, a secret response to Alex Galloway's request to submit some of our Entropy8Zuper! work. But Groorg Groorg still hasn't appeared in the Rhizome link list and as a result none of our other work has either. The only link to Groorg Groorg on the net remains the one in our Airport section. The reason why it is there is because Michaël is not working on the site anymore and has no intention to do so, really. It was started before completion of the merger between Michaël and Auriea. And has become a relic to that time. In the bubble that appears when you open one of the creature's shields, you can see the last 10 shots Michaël's web cam took at any given time. That part of the site is still live. The sounds were all made by Michaël's mouth. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Her Boyfriend Came Back From The War This piece was commissioned by Olia Lialina for het Last Real Net art Museum. She asked many artists and designers to create a version of her famous "My Boyfriend cam back from the War" web site, in another medium. She chose us to do a Flash version. The movie consists of the the images from the original website and its text read out loud by Auriea and Michaël. It is also available as a screensaver. The background music loop is made with a sample from a piece by Jean Sibelius. Like so many projects we've worked on elements from this haunt us and end up remixed in Wirefire and in our daily ways of speaking. Oh, how many times has Auriea asked Michael to marry her and he always says "No, better next month after holidays and the weather must be better. Yes next month. I'm happy now..." ? How often does Michael reach for Auriea and whisper teasingly "Kiss Me ... tomorrow!" ? On mouse over: Imagine yourself floating. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Kiss Project commissioned for the Snowblossom exhibition. This was the valentine sent from A to Z in 2001 This was his reply This was their reply Subject: Re: kiss <- forever Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:31:04 +0100 From: Z! To: A! >ROXANE: > Hush! hush! > >CYRANO: > A kiss, when all is said,--what is it? > An oath that's ratified,--a sealed promise, > A heart's avowal claiming confirmation,-- > A rose-dot on the 'i' of 'adoration,'-- > A secret that to mouth, not ear, is whispered,-- > Brush of a bee's wing, that makes time eternal,-- > Communion perfumed like the spring's wild flowers,-- > The heart's relieving in the heart's outbreathing, > When to the lips the soul's flood rises, brimming! > >ROXANE: > Hush! hush! > >http://www.netcolony.com/members/ant/plays/cyrano3.html http://e8z.org/404kiss > MICHAEL: Hush! hush! Bodyscans were made in England, the operator said that he had never scanned more than one person at a time. Auriea and Michael become one body. 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This project would consist of anywhere between 1 and 16 pages in the magazine as well as any number of megabytes on line.So we challenged Andreas: "Ok, we'll take the 16 pages out of your magazine and teleport them to the net because The truth is in here." To which he responded: "Ok, and you get the money we save by not having to print those 16 pages."Sixteenpages.net is a search engine interface and www portal. It covers the complete universe, since it has sections for all four elements and their corresponding directions of the wind, human organs and gods. Each leading to four portals from where you can start your journey, sixteen in total. Technically, the interface is by no means perfect. It will not work without your cooperation.Michaël Samyn & Auriea Harvey, Entropy8Zuper! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Venus Trap For us interactive media have always been about the body. Experiencing a web site is a sensual experience. We are not bodiless entities when we roam the internet. All of our actions and thoughts are based on having bodies. The way we respond to mental stimuli is motivated by our physicality. When Mr. Hello asked us to submit a piece for his on line show about the hand shaped cursor that signifies moving the cursor over a link or 'hot spot' in web browsers, we responded with this piece. The 'hand shaped cursor' turns the computer cursor into an extension of your body. It testifies to the inherent sensual nature of interactive computer environments. Venus Trap was loosely based on an earlier interface for the Zuper! site in which one would 'touch' little hand icons to gain access to the different elements of the site. When experiencing a web site is a sensual event, making and publishing one because a very intimate thing. In a way developing a web site, is like developing a sense organ, a tentacle or antenna. Our web sites are ways for us to bare some skin in order for users to touch us. And in turn they allow us to touch the user. We tell the prosthetic sense organ how to respond to certain touches. The response is ours. The experience of those sites becomes a sensual game of teasing and pleasing. In Venus Trap, touching the pictures of our hands will open them into a risky openness. You can stroke our hands gently but you cannot click. Doing so will make our hands snap close and eat up your hand cursor, effectively taking away your sense organ. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wirefire Auriea Harvey & Michael Samyn to be read aloud by Auriea @ wwvf.nl 11 October 2001 A SECRET HISTORY OF WIREFIRE I. Interactive Porn A. The secret history of Wirefire is sex in a virtual world. The loss of physicality -- but let me not call it a loss -- because of what is gained... What one can gain through Wirefire is a new sense of touch, an enhanced fantasy, a glimpse of a personal utopia... What afterall is Sex but communication, and Love one of the messages one hopes to get across. go to - http://google.com search keyword: jetaime machine scroll down link into: http://www.entropy8zuper.org/godlove/it's_not_about_comfort_baby/movies/ B. The genre of Virtual Sex games is something which has permeated the market, type Virtual Sex into any search engine and you can readily see that there is a world out there for whom sex in the mind is 'real' sex. These are roots of our Wirefire application, from the mouth of our river flowed just such an idea. After buying Virtual Valerie as a birthday present for his father, Michael thought to make a virtual sex game, for fun and profit. For one reason or another the project did not come out but we are left with this artifact which shows the beginnings of the Wirefire system: load in browser: text04.dcr The idea of it was to insert 2 players into a story via a modem connection, in this artifact what we have left over is text. A hand touching a thigh in the mind - but had he taken it further the scenes would have been played out in some graphical way. You chose to be man or woman. You as a participant show up in the game and your virtual partner sits next to you at the other end of the line. As you select the action you wish to take the other Virtual Sex participant gets two choices of what they will do next. based on thier choice you get two choices of what to do next, and so on, and so forth until the game is done (sigh... if these things are ever finished) the thought was also to accomodate virtual voyeurs as some people like to play and others they like to watch. II. /underyourdesk that which senses you touchless and touches you senseless ( read aloud together: ) zuper: (private) sleep with me zuper: (private) close your eyes womanonfire -> zuper: eyes are closed zuper: (private) mine too womanonfire -> zuper: i am womanonfire -> zuper: with you zuper: (private) yes zuper: (private) bones womanonfire -> zuper: i can hear your heartbeat zuper: (private) muscles zuper: (private) I can hear yours zuper: (private) I can feel it womanonfire -> zuper: sleep womanonfire -> zuper: dream zuper: (private) I think I'll stay awake just a little bit zuper: (private) and watch you zuper: (private) breathe zuper: (private) memories womanonfire -> zuper: feel the memories zuper: you're making exactly the same gestures as I am: holding your head, stroking your hair,... womanonfire -> zuper: : womanonfire -> zuper: it is you stroking my hair zuper: (private) my hand follows the shape of the side of your body without touching it load in browser: http://entropy8zuper.org/underyourdesk/ an evacuated building. B. Chatting was very important for a time to both of us. this text communication was the heigth of intimacy to the point where before we met when we had opportunity to hear one anothers voices it was too strong a gesture i felt blown away by the power of just this one added dimension to our affair. The sad truth was that we wanted to hide in our fairy tale and not have the delicate bubble in which we floated burst by reality. It sounds evil but the real things in our lives were not any more important for being real. Our Virtual Work was and still is the most real thing which has ever happened. Perhaps as he said at the time "it takes believing in magic..." it takes desire to create ones own paradise. The office was where we first had a glimpse of what Wirefire could be. Communicating live from 1 to 1. In this the last version of /underyourdesk before Wirefire was completed our so called "interoffice stereo system" which consisted of us buying the same albums and playing them at the same time while we chatted had evolved into the ability to play audio clips for one another to add emphasis or just to get each others attention. we made it a comfortable office and met there everyday to work, to play... C. skinonskinonskin, a series of digital letters to one another, was begun the day after we first came together in text when Michael sent me breath.html. We set up a small room in http://www.hell.com/NO/SUCH/PLACE/EXISTS/seasideMOTEL/. We, both being web designers, wanted to share that coded intimacy with one another building our own world. DHTMLove. D. Genesis was the first chapter of our website which we made together, here, online. All of these elements are present in what is today Wirefire the chat, the webcameras, the sampling of elements from our work the pieces forming a dream for us. But next private/public place was our goal. After all we are exhibitionists. I've had a webcamera beaming me onto the net since 1998... i was ready for what we were to create next... III. Wirefire beta We were now living together. but... we were apart... I was overseas. Michael sends me email. I go to /underyourdesk, we talk. I leave the office open on dialup in my hotel room, i sleep and he plays music to wake me up. I was overseas. We take screen-grabs at one another. .. ... Michael sends me email. I go to http://entropy8zuper.org/wirefire for the first time and this is what i find there. load: Wirefire beta The basic concept is that we make tools such as this one which is an interface to the movies on the server. Another movie acts as browser client and allows "voyeurs" to tune in. needless to say this initial content of Wirefire evolved... IV. *W*I*R*E*F*I*R*E* this is what Wirefire became: load: Wirefire 1 interface Technically, it is animations, sound files, and jpegs pushed into motion with an engine of scripts and layer built upon layer littered with specs of dust. A thin wire strung between two camera images, fingers on keyboards like figertips on each others skin, letters on a monitor screen, whispers. Beneath that, there is a fairy tale for those who like to watch, a realtime communication with its messages built into the content. Though now that we are together and we've morphed our daily chat obsession into weekly group sex. The currents which run through Wirefire are still the same... what does it mean to interact with another human using digital media. what does one do when you fall in love with a 160x120 pixel image? How is it to be a digital being in love? What is ecstacy like in the network? load: Wirefire 2 interface V. *WIREFIRE PERFORMANCE* Wirefire is an online performance, a communications tool and a really good story. This project utilizes technology we have developed to touch through the wires. It combines chat, sounds, images, animations and live camera streams to form an interactive, improvisational expression which goes beyond words. Performers create simple files which are mixed in real time. Built in is a sytem for the performers to see the presence of viewers and also a way for the audience to communicate with the performers. The system exists entirely on the Internet meaning that performers can be in any location and the performance can be viewed by anyone with a current web browser and the Flash plug-in. This is the only online performance/tool of its kind which we have been operating since July 1999 and in its present format since April 2001. Wirefire is our personal remixer of emotions and graphics, it provides an opportunity to free-associate the themes and materials in our work and an opportunity to infect our collaboration with Autopo‘zie. Wirefire may be viewed in three distinctly different modes. Random, Live and Replay: Random mode: is the default mode of this site. When you first arrived you no doubt noticed that movies began streaming to your browser.. In this mode just sit back and let the computers do the work mixing files at random from our library of Wirefire material. When we start a performance Random automatically switches into Live mode. Live mode: when the humans take control. This mode allows for real time image blend effects and sound mixing . During the perfomances one can see how many are Òin the audienceÓ as the presence of each viewer connected is shown as a small spec of dust on your screen. You can be aware of who is at the controls by live webcamera images and text chats between performers and between audience members. All of these elements make for quite a different experience of the Wirefire environment than the Replay or Random versions. Replay mode: if you have missed one of our live performances you can come to the site and view it in Replay mode. After every performance a data file is saved and the entire show can be replayed from the server. While the files are shown in the same order the timing is random, and it is archived without chat, live images and none of the realtime effects produced during the Live show. Wirefire is a meeting of two minds. Michael had an idea of how to make a theatrical entertainment environment where people could connect remotely and act out their fantasies. Auriea, an exhibitionist and performance artist wanted to make an online event which could serve as communication and creative excercise. Both of us with a strong desire to get out of the box and say... show... what we really mean. This project evolved, most importantly, however, from our earliest forms of communication through the internet. We met each other online and that was for a long time the only way we could talk to each other. We used commercially available video chat software but quickly felt its limitations. It had live images and some audio capabilities but left us feeling as if a barrier were between us. A gulf of space and time clouding our feelings. It lacked a way for us to collaborate on our various projects and it lacked feeling. We graduated to creating our own online "office" which afforded us a place to meet online. Javascript clocks were set up which told us the time in our respective locations: New York City, USA, and Ronse, Belgium. We put in a cgi based chat and organized html pages linked to our current work and important links. We became chat addicts and addicted to each other. Meeting in secret in our private place. Joining forces to make magic online. During our time in that interface we noticed how HTML could be input into the text chat to change things like colors and font sizes. As time went on the interface developed into a way to play music for each other and leave love notes. The sea of frustration which engulfed us during this time raised many issues about what it means to interact with another human using digital media. We created another project titled skinonskinonskin which dealt with our everyday lives and the complications of this new relationship between us in contrast to the intensity of our online correspondance. This is the main current which runs through Wirefire... what does one do when you fall in love with a 160x120 pixel image? How is it to be a digital being in love? What is ecstacy like in the network? Once we came together in the same location we decided to take what we had learned from our office and the emotional lessons of skinonskinonskin and develop it into something which would be an effective system for our communications while on the road and for public entertainments. Firengin: the new Wirefire engine Now the engine behind the Wirefire performance has been completely rewritten, amongst other things to take advantage of the XML sockets interface that version 5 of Macromedia Flash offers. The engine has been streamlined completely and allows for much more flexible employment. The core of the new engine consists of only four files: a client and tool application (both Flash movies) and two CGI scripts written in Perl. Optionally one can add the free Swift-generator (also a CGI script) to this combo, which allows for the direct loading of images and sounds into the Flash environment. The fuel for the engine consists of Flash movies made by the user(s) and pictures and sounds (from any web site, as long as you know the URL). Note that the new Firengin can be used entirely without the aid of web browsers. And that that would not exclude access through web browsers. The choice is up to the user: to attend a session through a web browser equipped with the Flash plugin, or to use an application that can be downloaded from our server. The same goes for the performers. The relative simplicity of this system would allow for making it available to the public in one of the following formats: 1. Shrinkwrapped: downloadable software and instructions to set up on the user's own server 2. Motel: users come to a dedicated server and set up a Firengin session (private or public), optionally acquiring accounts which would allow them to set up their own version of Wirefire. We are considering one or both of these strategies, if there is a demand for them, so if you are interested in utilizing the Wirefire environment for yourself contact us. Mainflame: multi-user Firengin The Firengin system could also be adapted so it would allow for more than two performers. This brings a whole new dimension to the Wirefire idea. It would be possible to set up a massively-multiplayer network. Initiators could download the multi-user Firengin and install it on their servers. On their servers they would set up one or more Firengin sessions. The initiators decide how many performers are allowed to participate in a session and whether or not the session can be attended by the public. A live Firengin session reports back to the Mainflame server that keeps track of all available multi-user sessions. Users would go to the Mainflame server with their web browser or with a client application that they can download. They would choose to either participate as a performer in sessions or attend a performance as a viewer. Any web server can run any number of Firengin sessions, provided the necessary resources are available (memory, bandwidth, CPU processes, TCP/IP port numbers.) The multi-user Firengin could be used for many different purposes: -multimedia chat sessions (intimate private meetings and/or chat orgies) -artistic performances (Firengin also works very well when projected in large format) -visual multi-dj-ing -presentation of graphics and sounds (designers to clients, help desks, etc) Firengin is just software. The content of a session depends on the content the performers make for it. This can range from still images to online games, from private one on one text based chat to a multi-user multi-viewer multi-media interactive real-time performance. Plus, with canned and replay mode, it can also be used as a non real-time application. More information will be made available about Mainflame as we develop the idea. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Text The purpose of this file is to be an encyclopedia of everything we know and can write down about our work. As such it will grow continuously as we remember things, or as new interpretations develop, as we feel like writing, etcetera. It was first published as part of our response to a commission for the BORDER=0 LOCATION=YES "Artist as an Expert" exhibition curated by Olia Lialina.